Tuesday, April 15, 2014

Jacket progress and tshirt with lace sleeves

I finally got my jacket cut out, marked and sewn.  I had envisioned highlighting the seaming with some grosgrain ribbon but now I think it makes it look too twee.  I need to decide whether I'll go with a standard zip or track down a separating invisible zip.

I whipped up bathing suits for the girls.  Coverstitched the hems and just did a shite job.  Thoroughly amateur.  I hit those seam allowances or the join in the elastic and the lower looper suddenly fails to loop.

In a 2 hour time span, including cutting, I made a t shirt with lace arms.  The shirt is double layer at front as it was a bit transparent.  The hems are coverstitched except on the lace.  This was suppose to be a short sleeve top but it was snowing and below freezing outside and it could be a long long time before short sleeves are required.

Saturday, April 5, 2014

Butterick 5456 Maxi Dress

Butterick 5456 was bought with the intention of making a just below the knee summer dress.  Then it became a maxi dress as I could not come to terms with cutting the pattern panel down.  The pattern also repeats on the back skirt.  I haven't worn a  dress this long sine the 80s.  I am seeing this with a pair of gold or silver flat sandals.  Yay shoe shopping!

I altered the pattern to get rid of the keyhole in the back and added an 1.5 inches to the bodice to cover the boobage.   I should have added another 1.5.  I also should have adjusted the sleeve opening under the arm to something higher and narrower in the front.  If I had done an internet search before I cut the fabric I would have seen that other busty women have complained of the same thing.

I will make this again, shorter, with the necessary adjustments. FYI - Snowing today.

Saturday, March 22, 2014

Nancy Drew Bag

I had been lugging a great big laptop knapsack back and forth to the office.  Frankly I hated it.  It is heavy even when empty and I didn't need that amount of space and a trillion compartments.  To save my shoulders I have been carrying nothing often leaving me without a lunch or change for a donut or my stupid office pass. 


What I need is a bag into which I can slip my lunch, cash and bus pass, keys and ereader.  When I need to cart the laptop home I will use the little briefcase that came with it that I leave at the office.

I decided I wanted to use one of my Nancy Drew charm packs to make something fun.  When I showed the fabric to Kate she liked it but said it would be nicer with newer pictures of Nancy (read: more modern).  Screw you kiddo, you just talked yourself out of me using this fabric on you.   I settled on the Hamptons Handbag pattern from Pink Sand Beach Designs.  The instuctions were good and in colour with lots of pictures. Inside is lined and has pockets all around. Outside has two big pockets on my version but you could have sewed up the middle and gotten four.

I am pleased with the way it turned out.  It's a punchy bit of colour, it's light, and it makes me happy.  Sadly, it will need to wait one more month before making it's spring debut.  I can't see using the while still walking around in my winter parka.  It's snowing today.

Now back to our regular schedule of sewing clothing.

Friday, March 14, 2014

More Office Ts

 Spring sewing.  Hee hee.  I kill myself.  Spring is never coming.

This top is for the spring office lineup.  More of that grey/blue jersey with a small drape neck.  I love the neck drape.  It just seems to elevate a tshirt into something with a bit more class.  This is another version based on my TNT pattern.  Not much more to say about it except it sucks to relearn the lesson of testing out your coverstitch machine on scrap fabric first to get the stitch right before you sew your real garment.  I should know better.  
This next bright blue top was the a RTW knock off with a dolman sleeve.  I just laid the shirt down and copied it onto tracing paper, trued it up, added seam allowance and went to town.  What I didn't account for was that the RTW top had stretch it both directions and my blue fabric does not.  I could not get the sleeves on my arms - even with the ease of the dolman.  So, I cut them off.  This will be a shell under a sweater.

Version two has a much more ease in the sleeve.  I actually measured my biceps and made sure things would fit before I went to fabric.  Again, something I should have done in the first place, but I was to eager to sew.

In the queue is a First Communion dress.  I saw a cute one in a Burda mag and traced it out.  I have muslined the top and made the necessary changes.  I have ordered the white cotton batiste, some crochet trim and the lace for the neckline.

Saturday, March 8, 2014

Long Drape Top Version 2

No sewing all week and I was feeling antsy.  I wanted another shot at my long drape top Style Arc knock off.  I had picked by a lovely grey/blue knit from Fabricland that was very fluid.  Perfect for version two. 

I narrowed the width of the neckline at my shoulders to keep the top from sliding off.  I adjusted the shape of the neckline to drop the drape lower.  I made the top tighter from armpits down.  And I added the modesty T shirt panel underneath.  Very pleased with this version.  I used my serger and my coverstitch for the hems.  I will be doing this top in a short sleeve version for the spring/summer .
I got this super cute pack of charms that features Nancy Drew.  Love me some Drew.  Now I just need to find something do with them.  I am not wasting them on my kids.  I don’t want to make a quilt.  I am thinking of some type of summer bag.

Like many of you out there I am tired of winter and my mind has shifted to spring sewing.  I am planning my spring office wardrobe.  The quick basics are:

  • Grey long draped top short sleeved (you just saw the winter version, same fabric)
  • Cream jersey small draped top short sleeved (self drafted, maybe with a dolman sleeve)
  • Red/white ponte ss wrap top (NL 6150)
  • Navy pants (Vogue 2532 - already muslined, fabric coming from FabricMart, need to reduce leg width)
The frosting list:
  • Keyhole jacket in boucle (self drafted - class work)
  • Blue lace skirt over cream jersey lining (more of a summer item).

Sunday, February 23, 2014

Long Drape Top

As I mentioned, I have been pining over Style Arc's drape top.  I figured I could come up with something similar courtesy the last two years of pattern making classes I have been taking.  I redrew my neckline and the slashed and spread at CF to add the drape.  The I slashed and spread again as it wasn't giving enough volume

It is close to what I want but not quite there.  I need one more iteration.  The first problem is the shoulders.  I need to extend the shoulders higher to the neck so that this top does not slip off.  For this version I will have to add bra straps to keep it from sliding off my shoulder and conveying a Flashdance album cover.

The next thing I need to do is make the top tighter.  I'll bring in the side seams for that fix.  If you want the drape to really show, the thing has to be fitted otherwise the front hem just tends to droop from the weight of the drape.  Finally, I will make that neckline even lower by about 2-3 more inches.  Oh, and this top begs to be made in a very light knit.  This version, a medium weight ponte, is a bit too firm and crisp.

I didn't build the modesty top into the shirt as is done in the Style Arc pattern.  I wanted to be able to throw this over any tshirt.

I am sad to say that this is the end of my lovely black ponte with the hint of sheen.  I got three great tops out of it.  I went back to order more but it was all gone.  So long black ponte.  We had a good run.

Saturday, February 22, 2014

Wrap Top

Ah New Look 6150, is there anything you can't do?  This is a great knit pattern. You've seen me do the tunic, the gathered sleeve option, and now the wrap.  Go out and get this baby.  It is a treasure.  What I especially like about this wrap is that it gives you a fairly high neck.  There is no danger of gapage.  Sweet.  I made no alterations to this, ran it straight from the package.  The next time I make it I will add a bit more length.

I adjusted my jacket muslin in class.  We pinned out the fullness of the peplum in front and sides and added it back at the rear end.  Now you don't see much bulk at the hips but your get some frou frou action at the rear end.  I am much happier with it.  It now looks more like my drawing.

I am obsessing over this Style Arc pattern.  I cannot afford the Australian shipping, and there are no local retailers, so I am trying my hand at my own version of a long drape tunic. Should be posted tomorrow.

Sunday, February 16, 2014

Jacket pattern in progress

I was pretty bummed to have to leave my part time sewing job.  Much of their winter line was knit wear and I quickly got over my hesitancy sewing with knits.  They are a fast sew and they are forgiving from a fit perspective.  What's not to love?  I also got to sew a few custom upcycle orders (a quilt and a bear's kilt/tam) and did plenty of alterations and repairs.  The designer also gave me an intro to pattern grading which I really dug.

Working full time has really reduced my free sewing time.  I have my pattern making class with Frank that needs to take priority when I do have time.  Everything else comes second.  We've got our jacket blocks created, drawn our design idea, and created the pattern.  I have it done up in muslin but am not feeling the love.  Here are the concept drawing and muslin. The jacket fits better on me as my girl is filler than I am across the back and boobs.  She is also about one inch longer back and front length. 

The jacket has quite a bit of a peplum.  The drawing does not.  I think I need it to land somewhere in the middle so will need to rework.  I also need the keyhole neckline to be longer..

My mom is off to a resort this week. I made her an easy travel top and skirt cut on the bias. I have done this set for her in the past but this time in a travel proof (re: polyester!) fabric.  I used Simplicity 2614 which is a damn good little pattern.  She'll be able to mix and match and dress this right up.

Dad also hit me up for some hemming. Curse our big arses and short legs!

Sunday, February 9, 2014

Another work top...probably not.

Another self drafted top.   A boxy top with three tucks taken on one side near the waist. I ran into some trouble with the neck when I just fold it over and topstitched. The satin just didn't look cleanly finished.  Instead I ripped it out and bound it in bias.  Better.  The back was too loose at the small of my back so I made a center back seam and curved the seam in around the waist.  The sleeves are ok, but if I did a repeat I'd add some more ease.  I am on the fence on this. It doesn't look fantastic on.  It'll like go to goodwill.

The skirt shown belongs to mom.  It is cut on the bias and I am just letting it hang for a few days before I hem it.

I got to go see the shows at Ottawa Fashion Week on Friday night.  Mom and I went.  We hit the shows and spent the breaks gambling at the casino.  I won $100 on the penny slots

Wednesday, February 5, 2014

Fingerless Gloves

There are some good things about going back to work full time: the quiet time on the bus to read my book; only worrying about getting myself ready and out the door; looking forward to seeing the family in the evening.  The biggest baddest thing is not getting up at 6:30 am but rather the huge reduction in available sewing time.

I eeked in an hour tonight for more office sewing.  This time a pair of arm warmers. I am freezing in the office.  I used this tutorial from Tie Dye Diva and some sweater knit from Fabricland.  Hubby scoffed at the concept, told me to wear long sleeves, but I like them.

Sunday, February 2, 2014

Shrug McCall's 6845

A few days in the office has made me realize I am going to need to keep a sweater there and I wanted something light.  Enter McCall's 6845 View D.  It is meant for a woven but I used a knit.  I got rid of the collar/band and just extended the body 2"  following the CF curve all the way around.

This is a grey knit with a bit of glitter in the stripes that I picked up for $5/M at Fabricland.  I serged it all then topstitched it down.  Quick make.   Total cost: $7.5.

I have a black one done up as well from the leftover black knit that I used to make Kate's witch costume.  I'll  bring that one in also and leave it there.  That covers my black/grey office palate.

McCall's 6845 also features one of the ugliest patterns I have ever seen.  A true what the hell were they thinking moment.

Friday, January 24, 2014

Office Collection: Part 2

Today's sewing resulted in a heavy grey ponte knit skirt.  I used my TNT a line knit pattern. It has the facing built in. Sew one side, the other, hem and done. 

The shirt is Simplicity 2618.  The shirt will be a layering piece, I probably won't wear the two together.

This woven blouse took more time. I drafted the pattern from a favourite ready to wear top from Banana Republic. It is basically a square dartless shirt block, spread for pleats at the waist.  Back shape is given via the tie. I used a polyester satin.  The neck, arms and hem are done with my coverstitch.

No, my pants aren't hemmed yet.

Sunday, January 19, 2014

Office Collection Winter 2014

An imminent return to an office environment has made me realize the dearth of business casual attire in my wardrobe.  So, it is time for some quick and dirty sewing.  For the most part that means using my tried and true, tested and modified, patterns and blocks.  I have also settled on blacks and greys as the colour base for this collection.  Not exactly going to set the world on fire but I need office basics!

Using Simplicity 2614 for the basis of an aline bias cut skirt, I whipped up a skirt in black crepe (not shown) and in a black/grey pinstripe.  I did not line (quick! dirty!) so these will require a slip.  Also, a sweet and easy elastic waistband.  I don't tuck anyhow, so no one will be the wiser.

Using Simplicity 6150 I have sewn up a basic black long 3/4 sleeve knit top. Perfect for over pants or a skirt. I got to use my new Coverstitch machine and woohoo what fun.  I also did up the same top with a sleeve variation in a winter white ponte that I have been dying to use. There was no way I was setting in knit sleeves, as per instructions.  I serged the shoulder/arm together, gathered with elastic, and then put it in flat.  No problemo.

4 garments, 5 hours - cutting time included.  Yeah baby.

Pants?  Fuck it.  I bought pants.  2 black pair of different cuts, 1 dark grey.  I just don't have the time to sew everything.  They'll need to be hemmed of course.

Friday, January 17, 2014


 It's been quick and easy knit town around here and it is time to return to my first love.  Donuts. I mean, wovens.  I picked up a water resistant red poplin from fabric.com.  Marc Jacobs no less.  I made the Minoru coat from Sewaholic.  I am a sucker for a dramatic collar.  I lined it with a grey kashi from stash that I originally got from a discount bin. It has some some fading on the pieces I used for the arms.  No one will know but me.

First thing I noticed when checking the patterns finished measurements is that the front to waist length is short -  not enough length to deal with my boobs.  I added two extra inches via a side dart to accommodate the girls.  I see by checking the web that others have managed to achieve similar results through a slash and spread FBA.

For lining, I just used the primary pieces and cut them a bit longer then finished hem length. I had to shorten the sleeves by two inches, tighten the wrist elastics, and raise the waist elastic by two inches to sit in the right spot for me.  I also didn't just tuck the lining behind the hem and sew as instructed. I sewed the 2" hem down then bagged the lining.

I departed from my usual steps of making a muslin and marking seam allowances. I cut fabric carefully, snipped notches and only marked key points like the waist casing and pockets. I am pleased with the result.  I can't wait for spring.  Which, as you can see below, will be a long time coming.

Monday, December 23, 2013

4x6 Bag

A visit to the quilting shop to get my scissors sharpened resulted in a purchase of some fat quarters and a pattern.  Sew Uptown is a 4x6 bag with a zippered main section and a pleated pocket.  The end result is cute, but really, how practical is a 4x6 bag?

I liked the zipper insertion technique, very simple.  I thought the instructions for the pleated pocket were unclear.  These two are Christmas gifts.  This may be my end of the year teacher gift.  We'll see.

Sunday, December 15, 2013


I never posted a pic of my Family Sew Professional dress form.  Here she is with her cover on.  I am still missing her base.

I bought through SewVacDirect and I don't really have anything positive to say about the experience.  First the base got lost.  I found this out after I had picked up the package in the states.  Then the base arrived and I asked them to make things easier on me and ship it to a closer border crossing.  They did.  Except they didn't and the base never arrived.  And now they are suppose to ship it direct to me, in the Great North, and still I wait.  And for each of these steps I hounded them and emailed them and called them.  Not impressive.

Using a big piece of work fabric that the designer threw at me, I made myself a hoodie (pattern by Meg McElwee).  It is cosy but every seam stretched during construction.  The neckline in particular should have been reinforced.  Ah well, it is just for slubbing around in, and really is toasty.

Changes in the fleet.

 There has been a shake up in the sewing fleet. My Huskylock s21 serger is gone.  I was never 100% in love with it.  Once I had much more serger experience under my belt, both on domestic and industrial machines,  I really knew what I wanted in a serger.  The s21 just wasn't it.

I bought a Juki 2516 3/5 thread machine.  I spent $150 on the unit and $90 on a servicing. The repairman told me I had myself a $700 machine.  I didn't really need a true safety stitch machine.  In fact, I had hoped I could convert it to a four thread...but alas, it doesn't look doable.  Right now I am using it as a three thread and it is sweet and I can see using it for it's true purpose soon enough. 

Still, I needed a four thread mock safety stitch.  I just do not have the room for another industrial so it had to be a domestic.  I am scouting out a used older model juki (Mo-634DE) that also has rolled hem capability.  Physically it is much smaller than the s21 and it does not shake in use.  The s21 shook like it was getting ready for lift off.  I am having some knife issues and will meet with the serviceman again on Monday and get him to show me how to properly adjust it.  Hopefully it will be happily ever after from then on...or until I have space for an industrial.

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

Pleather sleeved Jacket

I muslined Mccalls 5759  last winter (March) and it sat around until this summer before I got it in fashion fabric.  Then it sat again.  Finally it can come off the dressform and into the closet.

I used a heavy wool, almost like a felt, that I bought from Frank for $15.  I also purchased a meter of a fake fur/leather from C&M textiles when we were in Montreal last ($20).  It is lined in a lime green bemberg ($8) I extended the band around the jacket to make it more substantial.  I used snaps ($5)  rather then buttons to let the band be unimpeded.  I left out the pockets altogether.  They were faux anyways. As others have pointed out, this is not a style of jacket that can be worn open because of the dramatic collar and the over lapping fronts.

I didn't love working with the faux material but it wasn't as onerous as I thought they might be.  The jacket is surprisingly warm with the wool. I should have used kashi lining for the sleeves and that would have upped the cosiness factor.

Total Cost: $48

Tuesday, November 19, 2013

What do you dress your bear in?

Value Village was a treasure trove this week.  13 sewing books for $24.  First up was The Vogue Book of Sewing, then most the Singer Sewing reference library (11 books out of 13) and finally Mother Pletch's Painless Sewing.  Score!

I've taken advantage of some available scraps from work and made a pair of tights and a mini skirt for Kate.  The tights are Jalie 2216 and the skirt is self drafted.  I made a pair of pants for Maggie, also from the Jalie pattern, just sized up so they fit more like pants rather than tights.  I've also made an infinity scarf out of a two tone ponte and a second from a black knit. 

I quickly sewed up a cover to hide the hideous Ektorp ottoman.  Children celebrated by immediately eating on it and wasting my candy crush turns.

I looked at an industrial straight stitch machine but it fell apart in front of me.  I did not buy it.

On the alterations end I replaced a winter coat zip and hemmed ten curtain panels.  I am upping the price of the curtain hemming. Very tedious.

For my birthday I received a new dress form (thanks Pat!) from Family Sew.  She is a professional model, with collapsible shoulders.  Bust and waist she is my size but I padded out her hips a bit and she is now good to go - except for her base which is lost in UPS land.  I am sure that one day it will show up.

At work I completed an heirloom quilted table runner from reclaimed fabric.  I am now making a bear a kilt and a tam from a reclaimed child's kilt.  Don't forget: Fashion saves lives!

Friday, October 18, 2013


September and October have been a mixed bag.  Kids back at school and pants to hem.   Pattern making classes restarting (jacket block).  Clothing Construction 1 teaching resuming.  I've been taking in alterations from an ad on kijiji.  I have also started and quit and restarted a sewing job for a boutique downtown.  I have learned that there is no comparison between an industrial serger and a domestic. The industrial kicks ass.  I am keeping my eyes on the for sale ads.

My personal sewing output has been weak.  I did a witch and a panda bear costume for the girls. They were done early October as Kate was having a Halloween themed birthday party. 

I have just complete a self drafted tunic top based on a RTW in my closet.  I'll throw that up for the next post.

An interesting article on sewing: Hired at a Bangladesh Sweatshop

Sunday, October 13, 2013


Buttonhole twist.  A great thread for sewing up your Thansgiving bird.

Saturday, August 31, 2013

Hummingbird Peplum Take 2

I hate a failure due to wrong fabric choice.  So, I bit the bullet and bought a lightweight knit for retrying the Hummingbird Peplum top.  The end result is much better.  The peplum drapes and doesn't add too much volume to my hips and doesn't feel costumey. This will be worn.

Not wanting to leave the hem raw, I used steam a seam first to fold the hem over and secure it and then sewed it down.  Nice and neat.

I am still not a fan of the neckband/armbands...I think they are too small...that made for some fiddly sewing with a slippery knit.

Edit: I hate this top. Bye bye and into the scrap bin. No more peplums for me.

Sewing with Knits: Skirt and Shorts (Pants) and tshirts

I have to say, I am impressed with these basic patterns.  They were worth the price of admission to the Craftsy course "Sewing with Knits with Meg MacElwee".  I haven't found the information in the class earth shattering but there have been some ok little tips and tricks.  One of the best is to take the time to find which stitch works best for your knit.  Sew a seam with it.  Stretch it.  Any popping?  If yes, keep trying with a different combo.

This is the t-shirt.  Great neckband, not cheap in size.  Sleeve and hem just folded under and zigzagged.

I have done three of the skirt with the roll over waistband.  Easy and casual.  Mom got one, the other two are mine.  There will be more of these.  I also did one pair of the yoga pants with the roll over waistband.  Comfy for hacking around, but not really a style I would war out in public.

That is pretty much it for the crafty course Sewing with Knits.  I am waiting for a good sale before signing up for anything else.

Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Cake's Hummingbird Peplum Top

To treat myself at back to school time, I downloaded a Cake pattern.  I thought I was getting all the pieces, skirt and top. Instead they are sold separately and I got the top.  Luckily, that was my main motivator although I might not have purchased if I had realized that. 

I used the remnants of a medium weight knit.  In the end, I should have gone with something lighter.  It didn't have enough drape or recovery and the peplum sticks out quite a bit.  As a hippy chick, I need the peplum to lie flat.

I liked the approach that the pattern uses for sizing. That peplum needs to start at your waist, so get that front to waist measurement right.  I had trouble getting the neckband to lie flat and had to rip it out and do it again. I do not like the way the instructions have you put on the armbands, or the neckband for that matter.  You sew the bands on before the neck and arms are closed.  Then when you sew the shoulder seam and the side seam, the bands close.  While easy, it leaves with you with little sticky up bits of seam allowance.  Yuk. I'd rather attach my bands whole to the completed garment.  Much tidier.

Right now this feels like a wadder. I am not doing anything to the hem of the peplum, I'll leave it raw.  I am going to toss it in the wash and see where things stand in a few days.  I don't feel like sewing

another, in a proper weight of fabric, especially since I don't have any light knits in the stash.  We'll see, I hate an open ended failure.

Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Sewing with Knits: Project 1 The Hoodie

I have been taking another Craftsy course.  Can you tell I miss Frank and our weekly lessons? I needed some inspiration to get me sewing.  I am doing Sewing with Knits with Meg McElwee.  I am not a big knit sewer but I am drawn lately to the quickness of the projects.  As an aside, I do like the Craftsy platform however I find the video slow during the day so I tend to watch during off peak hours.

This is the first time I have ever used PDF patterns.  What a grand pain in the arse.  First, my printer barely works.  It usually loses it's mind and starts spewing random characters and you have to cancel your print job and start again. Then, having to tape all these pattern pieces together?  Ew. Ew. Ew.

I am trying to avoid skipping around the video, instead I am taking the lessons start to finish.  I may not make all the projects but I will watch the video.  This is the first project, the Hoodie.  There is nothing earth shattering from a construction standpoint.  The pattern sizing is generous, so measure out the finished bust and hips on the pattern before you pick a size.

This is a pretty cute garment.  The neckline is different and I love how the hem of the shirt flares out.  I will be sewing it again.

Sunday, July 28, 2013

Renfrew with Cowl

Another Sewaholic Renfrew top, this time with 3/4 sleeves and the cowl.

There is something to be said for sewing with knits, at least the more stable ones.  I rarely trace my stitching lines since knits tend to be forgiving, so getting from cutting to sewing is fast.  You don't usually have to do anything to the inside seam allowances.  I have even stopped serging them.  What is the point?  The knit usually doesn't ravel or run, the serging only adds bulk and I find knits easier to sew on my sewing machine.

This is a double knit, same fabric as the last Renfrew top just a different colour.  It is a dream to sew (and cut).

Saturday, July 27, 2013

Simplicity Blouse 2154 and the FBA

Bust darts are in the right place on me!
I was taught to select pattern size based on which finished measurement equaled your full bust size plus desired ease.  I recently took a Craftsy course called Adjust the Bust.  This course has you pick your pattern size based on your high bust measurement plus an inch per each cup size the pattern is based on (big four's based on B cup, so two inches).  Then you do the required small or full bust adjustment (high bust minus full bust minus pattern cup allowance) if required.  If positive, do a full bust adjustment, if negative, do a small bust adjustment.

I have always been curious about this method so decided to use it for adjusting the blouse in Simplicity 2154. I first had to lower my bust point and then did a 1" FBA.  I also adjusted the shoulder as it was too long, and curved center back a bit for a better fit .

From a construction POV, I used a light see through salmon pink cotton voile with flowers.  I  backed it with a solid pink voile, basted them together and worked with the pieces as one.  I thought the neck facing on the pattern was too small given they want you to baste it to the inside.  I had to understitch it to get it to fold and then tacked it to various seam allowances.  I tried to leave the bow uninterfaced but it needed the volume, so I went back and added it.  I left off the side zip as I can squeeze in to it as it stands.

As for the Craftsy course, I liked it.  The instruction was good, pleasant but not too chatty.  I am pleased with the FBA technique that was taught and will certainly use it again.